ukelele lady Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 The Scarborough Arms 34 Addy Street 1863, 64, 65, William Tarlington 1868 H W Smart 1876, 79, 83, 87, 88, 89, 90, William Isaac Ronksley [ Rouksley ] 1893 Harry Nicholson 1895, 96, Henry Bocking 1898 , 1902, Noah Goulding jun 1903 William Goulding 1907 , 10, William Walker 1912, 13, 16, 17, 20, 21, 22, John Dossett The Sportsman's Group 851 Penistone Road 1859, 65, 68, J Hollins 1876, 79, John Baker 1883, Mrs E Baker 1887 Ann Talbot 1888, 89, 90, 93, 95, 96, 98, William E Horton 1902, 03, 07, 10, John C Chambers 1912, 13, Thomas Henry Crawshaw 1916, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, William Robert Jones Sir Admiral Lyons 167 Eyre Street 1859 William Dale Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 The Sportsman 183 Worrall Road Wadsley 1833 , George Hoyle 1859 , 65, S Colley 1876, 79, Mrs Elizabeth Proctor 1883, Mrs Ann Woolhouse 1887 Charles Lamb 1888, 89, 90, 93, 95, 96, 98, 1902, 03, George Harding 1907, 10, William Scott 1912, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, Stephen Broughton Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 The Spotted Dog / Spotted Cow Alma Street / Russell Street 1859 William gilpin The Star Inn 35 Orange Street 1859 Joseph Elston The Star 11 Meadow Street 1859 Joseph Mann The Star 35 High street 1863, 64, 65, Charles Davy 1868, 76, James Steer 1879, 83, John Charles Steer 1887 Charles John Steer [ this could be a mistake don't you think ] 1888, 89, 90, John Charles Steer 1893 Mrs S E Steer 1895/6 John Charles Steer Cannon Spirit Vaults 30 Castle Street 1863, 64, 68, William Naylor The Soldier's Rendezvous 41 West Bar [ In place of Sportsman Walkley. 2 of ] 1859 George Bletcher Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 The Soldier's Rendezvous 41 West Bar [ In place of Sportsman Walkley. 2 of ] 1859 George Bletcher I'm non the wiser with this Ukelele Lady; any more information or a source please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I'm non the wiser with this Ukelele Lady; any more information or a source please ? That's all it says from the Melville Directory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 The Sportsman 8 Peacroft 1849 William Norman The Stag 90 Pea Croft 1841 John Deakin 1856 J Cullingsworth 1859 William Cavill 1863 , 64, 65, 68, Thomas & Samuel Swift Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 That's all it says from the Melville Directory. Then Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Interesting, I agree with your findings. Here is my current understanding of the revised A-Z : Name Sheaf Tavern/Inn Address Canal Wharf/Pig Market/Cattle Market/Effingham Street/Sheaf Street, Park Open 1825. Closed 1900. Span 75. Score 26. 1825. John Thorp 1828. John Thorp (Canal Wharf) 1829. John Thorp (Canal Wharf) 1830. John Thorp 1831. John Thorp 1832. John Thorp 1833. John Thorp 1834. John Thorpe (Pig Market) 1835. 1836. 1837. John Thorpe 1838. John Thorp 1839. John Thorp (2 Cattle Market) 1840. 1841. John Thorp (2 Effingham Street) 1842. 1843. 1844. 1845. John Chadwick 1846. John Chadwick 1847. John Chadwick 1848. John Chadwick 1849. John Chadwick (2 Effingham Street) 1850. 1851. 1852. H Ward 1853. 1854. George Bullass 1855. 1856. H Ward 1857. 1858. 1859. Thomas Pattinson 1860. 1861. 1862. Thomas Pattinson (2 Effingham Street) 1863. Thomas Pattinson (2 Effingham Street) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The following need further investigation; especially the last two - fifty years after the place closed ! 1881. Fanny Hemstock (Beer Retailer) 1948. Albert R Tooley 1951. Mark Beaumont Left the above three under Sheaf INN, 11 Effingham ROAD All the others belong to Sheaf Tavern Cattle Market / Sheaf St / Effingham Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The Station Inn Blackburn Road / Naseby Street 1865, 68, H Dransfield 1876, 79, George Makepeace 1883, 87, 88, 89, 90, Joseph Fellows [ address change to Naseby street in 1888 ] 1893 , 95, 96, Mrs Mary Ann Fellows 1898, 1902, 03, Arthur J Sargeant 1905,07, 10, Alfred Ernest Albarn 1912, 13, Joseph Williams 1916, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, Lewis Garbutt Steer's Hotel 20 Haymarket & 2 Dixon Lanes 1863, 64, 65, James Steer Strong Arm 1 West Street 1863, 64, 68, Henry Bathe & Co 1883, Richard Bathe & Co 1887 Bathe & Co 1888, 90, Richard Bathe & Co Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The Sun 78 South Street Park 1859, 63, 64, 65, 68, Fred Hoyland 1871 J Methley 1876 Joseph Taylor 1879, 83, John Bateman 1887, 88, 89, 90, 93, Isabella Bateman 1895, 96, 98, 1902, 03, 07, 10, 12, 13, John Bateman 1916, Mary Ellen Bateman 1917, 19, 20, 21, 22, John Pool Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The Station 95-97 Wicker 1841 George Greaves 1859, 63, 64, 65, 68, 76, George Vaughan 1879, William Facer 1883, 87, 88, 89, William Fisher 1890, 95, 96, 98, John Gray 1902, 03, 07, 10, Mrs Eliza Gray 1912, 13, James Norris Wild 1916, 17, Frederick William Priestley 1919, 20, William Sheridan 1921, 22, Frederick William Priestley The Ship 312 Shalesmoor 1852, 56, 59, 63, 64, 65, 68, William Ibbotson 1876, 79, 83, 87, 88, 89, 90, 93, William Pattinson 1895, 96, 98, Mrs Lydia Pattinson 1902, 03, Albert Gibbons 1907, 10, Frederick Rodgers 1912, 13, Edmund Parker Wilcock 1916, William Walker 1917, 19, 20, 21, George Herring 1922 Mrs Emily Herring Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The Royal Oak High Street Mosborough 1879 Robert Archer 1883, 88, Mrs Mary Archer 1890, 93, 95, 96, George Southards 1898, 1902, Aaron Wells 1905, William Wainwright 1907, 10, 12, 13, Mrs Ellen Wainwright 1916, 17, 19, 20, 21, Sam Gibson Flatters 1922, Fred Hather Posted to A to Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Then Thank you. The Soldier's Rendezvous 41 West Bar can always be moved if we find it's just a pub name change and not a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 The Ship 312 West Bar 312 West Bar - is that 312 Shalesmoor, the one with the tunnels to the River ? 312 West Bar; didn't think/know West Bar had numbers that high ... or am I mistaken ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The Southsea Hotel 210 Fulwood Road 1839 Gerge Hoyle 1845, 49, James Ratcliff 1859, 63, 64, 65, 68, 76, 79, 83, 87, 88, 89, William Frederick Ratcliff 1890 William Frederick Skidmore 1893, 95, 96, William Oates 1898 John Palmer 1902, 03, Henry H Marsden 1907, 10, Mrs Louisa Walters 1912, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, Richard F Rathwell I can't remember if I've already posted this. . . I think I'm losing it. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardS Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Classed under beerhouse from White's 1845: Brett G.E. (Dolphin) 37 Division street Jessop Wm. (Raven) 12 Fitzwm. st Ward Wm. (Balloon) 83 Trippet ln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardS Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 As those are the only named pubs in the beerhouse listing from the 1845 Whites, is the cross referencing of address' enough proof of an owner? For instance (just at random): Lyall Thomas, 8 Sussex street is listed. If I search the index for '8 Sussex' I find: Gas Tank Inn Address 8 Sussex Street Open Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Gas Tank Inn That's got to be my favourite Victorian pub name up to now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardS Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Actually and even more annoyingly some of those listed as just 'beerhouse' in the trades section of some of my early directories are listed with the pub name in the alphabetical names section, grrrrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardS Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Allen Thos. Pen knife mfr. and beerhs. Hartshead Tap, 23 Hartshead. Allison Thomas, beerhouse, Shade Tavern, Little Sheffield Allott Thomas, beerhouse, Milton Arms, Little Sheffield Andrews Charles, beerhouse, Earl Grey, Ecclesall New Road Askham Joshua, beerhouse, Victoria Cottage, Jericho Street Barker Joseph, beerhouse, Portmahon Tavern, 111 Watery Way Briddon Wm. beerhouse, Grape Tavern, Jessop street Buxton Isaac, vict. Porter Cottage, 68 Porter street Cook John, beerhouse, Union Jack, 110 Eyre street Cooper James, beerhouse, Crown, 23 Blue Boy street Cundy Jonathon, beerhouse, Horse and Jockey, 14 Sheaf street Davies Abraham, beerhouse, Rancliffe Arms, 10 Anson street Dean William, beerhouse, Ball, Hillfoot Dodd Peter, beerhouse, Rock Tavern, 49 Bailey street Donelly Thomas, vict. Bird-in-Hand, 28 Spring streeet Eyre Elijah, beerhouse, Bull's Head, 24 Cross Smithfield Foster Sarah, beerhouse, Bridge Inn, 47 Hereford street Garner Thomas, beerhouse, Sun, 30 Bailey street Gillott John, beerhouse, Fox and Duck, 90 Rockingham lane Green Benjamin, beerhouse, Wheat Sheaf, Doncaster street Greenwood John, beerhouse, Cross Daggers, 17 Allen street Hicks John, beerhouse, Traveller's Inn, Cricket Inn rd Hind John, beerhouse, Thrush, 9 Duke st, Park. Holme Richard, beerhouse, Old Raven,53 West street Hoyland Frederick, beerhouse, Sun 78 South street, Park. Hudson Thomas, beerhouse, Union Tavern, 21 Duke street Larner Henry, beerhouse, Millwright's Arms, Philadelphia Ley Frederick, beerhouse, King and Miller, 1 Chester street Morris James, beerhouse, Falcon, 25 Leicester street Naylor William, Royal Hotel Tap, 4 Waingate Newton Wm. beerhouse, Metalsmiths' Arms, 2 Duke street, Park Norton Thomas, beerhouse, Royal Exchange, 64 Garden street Oldfield Thomas, saw handle maker and vict, Burnt Tree, 84 Allen st Pagdin Sarah, vict. Golden Cup, 19 Paternoster row Pearson Charles, beerhouse, Plumper's Inn, 51 Duke street, Park. Pearson Samuel, vict. Plumbers Inn, Owlerton bar Plaxton Wm. beerhouse, Napoleon Tavern, Green lane Pryor Harriot, beerhouse, Broomhill Tavern, Glossop rd Rodgers George, beerhouse, Shrewsbury Tavern, 102 South street, P. Sanderson George, file forger and vict. Half Moon, 64 Allen street Sanderson Wm. beerhouse, Rising Sun, 144 West street Smedley George, beerhouse, Bee Hive, Little Sheffield Smith John, grinder and vict. Railway Inn, 44 Nursery street Tadwell Thomas, Druids Tavern, 19 Bailey street Turner Robt. nursery & seedsman, & vict. Public Gardens, Ecclesall rd Unwin John, Commercial Tap keeper, 3 Commercial street Warburton, beerhouse, Monument Tavern, 190 South st. P. Wragg John, beerhouse, Crab Tree, 121 Scotland street Wragg Thomas, beerhouse, Miners' Arms, The Manor Wright John, beerhouse, Golden Fleece, court 80 Fruit market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 As those are the only named pubs in the beerhouse listing from the 1845 Whites, is the cross referencing of address' enough proof of an owner? For instance (just at random): Lyall Thomas, 8 Sussex street is listed. If I search the index for '8 Sussex' I find: Gas Tank Inn Address 8 Sussex Street Open Thoughts? I'd say a resounding YES, it's Ukelele Lady's decision though. Congratulations Richard, you've bagged a first known keeper there ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Heres some named ones from White's 1845 (inc some new ones??): Allen Thos. Pen knife mfr. and beerhs. Hartshead Tap, 23 Hartshead. Allison Thomas, beerhouse, Shade Tavern, Little Sheffield Allott Thomas, beerhouse, Milton Arms, Little Sheffield Andrews Charles, beerhouse, Earl Grey, Ecclesall New Road Askham Joshua, beerhouse, Victoria Cottage, Jericho Street Barker Joseph, beerhouse, Portmahon Tavern, 111 Watery Way Briddon Wm. beerhouse, Grape Tavern, Jessop street Buxton Isaac, vict. Porter Cottage, 68 Porter street Cook John, beerhouse, Union Jack, 110 Eyre street Cooper James, beerhouse, Crown, 23 Blue Boy street Cundy Jonathon, beerhouse, Horse and Jockey, 14 Sheaf street Davies Abraham, beerhouse, Rancliffe Arms, 10 Anson street Dean William, beerhouse, Ball, Hillfoot Dodd Peter, beerhouse, Rock Tavern, 49 Bailey street Donelly Thomas, vict. Bird-in-Hand, 28 Spring streeet Eyre Elijah, beerhouse, Bull's Head, 24 Cross Smithfield Foster Sarah, beerhouse, Bridge Inn, 47 Hereford street Garner Thomas, beerhouse, Sun, 30 Bailey street Gillott John, beerhouse, Fox and Duck, 90 Rockingham lane Green Benjamin, beerhouse, Wheat Sheaf, Doncaster street Greenwood John, beerhouse, Cross Daggers, 17 Allen street Hicks John, beerhouse, Traveller's Inn, Cricket Inn rd Hind John, beerhouse, Thrush, 9 Duke st, Park. Holme Richard, beerhouse, Old Raven,53 West street Hoyland Frederick, beerhouse, Sun 78 South street, Park. Hudson Thomas, beerhouse, Union Tavern, 21 Duke street Larner Henry, beerhouse, Millwright's Arms, Philadelphia Ley Frederick, beerhouse, King and Miller, 1 Chester street Morris James, beerhouse, Falcon, 25 Leicester street Naylor William, Royal Hotel Tap, 4 Waingate Newton Wm. beerhouse, Metalsmiths' Arms, 2 Duke street, Park Norton Thomas, beerhouse, Royal Exchange, 64 Garden street Oldfield Thomas, saw handle maker and vict, Burnt Tree, 84 Allen st Pagdin Sarah, vict. Golden Cup, 19 Paternoster row Pearson Charles, beerhouse, Plumper's Inn, 51 Duke street, Park. Pearson Samuel, vict. Plumbers Inn, Owlerton bar Plaxton Wm. beerhouse, Napoleon Tavern, Green lane Pryor Harriot, beerhouse, Broomhill Tavern, Glossop rd Rodgers George, beerhouse, Shrewsbury Tavern, 102 South street, P. Sanderson George, file forger and vict. Half Moon, 64 Allen street Sanderson Wm. beerhouse, Rising Sun, 144 West street Smedley George, beerhouse, Bee Hive, Little Sheffield Smith John, grinder and vict. Railway Inn, 44 Nursery street Tadwell Thomas, Druids Tavern, 19 Bailey street Turner Robt. nursery & seedsman, & vict. Public Gardens, Ecclesall rd Unwin John, Commercial Tap keeper, 3 Commercial street Warburton, beerhouse, Monument Tavern, 190 South st. P. Wragg John, beerhouse, Crab Tree, 121 Scotland street Wragg Thomas, beerhouse, Miners' Arms, The Manor Wright John, beerhouse, Golden Fleece, court 80 Fruit market Brilliant, Thank you. That'll keep me busy checking that lot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardS Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 Cross referencing the address' of the un-named places may take longer, so might have a pop Sunday or Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardB Posted May 7, 2011 Author Share Posted May 7, 2011 Cross referencing the address' of the un-named places may take longer, so might have a pop Sunday or Monday. I appreciate it will take longer, however, if we've waited 150 years a few more days won't matter much. Thank you for your effort Richard. A MASSIVE contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I'd say a resounding YES, it's Ukelele Lady's decision though. Congratulations Richard, you've bagged a first known keeper there ! I'll go along with that, I've found one or two myself in this way in which it says it's a beer house but under more scrutiny it turns out to have a title to the house but whether it's licenced as such . . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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