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#1 The General

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:00 PM

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Is there anyone out there with memories of Rotherham? How it was, how it's changed?

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:03 PM

Is the bottom one Roche Abbey?

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:05 PM

Is the bottom one Roche Abbey?


Yes it is DJ1, I love that place, Never very busy and very eerie especially when the fog comes in!
Said to be haunted by monks!





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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:10 PM

The Abbey is nowhere near as haunted as Hermeston Hall just up the road

*shudders*

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:18 PM

I love the place.

I have picures of the Abbey, which I am sure show the 'ghosts'.

I went there on June 6th 2004, it was a day after my birthday and as a present it was arranged for me to spend the night at a 'proper' haunted house (Hemeston Hall, mentioned by Neil above) on the night of my birthday. I got there (the house) and Phil Whyman (from Most Haunted) was there shooting a pilot TV programme. I got involved and ended up helping out with the production (and the promotion afterwards) - anyway, back to subject, we went to Roche Abbey the next day on the way home (in fact, the photo I use in my avatar was taken that day too) and I took loads of pics.

However, any which featured the back-right corner of the grounds came out seriously blurred. If the back-right of the grounds was in the background of any picture, that portion of the picture was blurred. Weird.

Out of interest, the house I stayed in that night (at Oldcoates, 2 miles away) was said to be linked via an underground tunnel to Roche Abbey at one point and the monks were to use it as an escape route during the demonistrisation times (if that't right?). The House at Oldcoates itself was also said to have been extended using stone from the Abbey. Pictures of the front of that lovely house are available in the 'I Monster/All Seeing I' thread in the Music section.

Lovely place to go, really strange being really low down from the road above, kind of in a valley, and the sun always seems to shine whenever we go there!

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:29 PM

An example of the blurring on the picture (only happened in this corner, no matter where it appeared in the picture and no matter what angle it was from!):

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I'll find some more pictures of the Abbey out...

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:44 PM

Crikey - that's bizarre (and spooky)

It's almost like there are faces looking at you..

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:54 PM

HAHAHAHA!!!

I have found a load of pictures of Roche Abbey - some of the best pictures I have ever taken, I think.

Deserves it's own thread, so I'll start a new one in this section and link it...

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 12:57 PM

Looking at the picture you posted - it looks like there's a man stood in the doorway of the ruin

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 02:11 PM

Deserves it's own thread, so I'll start a new one in this section and link it...


http://www.sheffield...p?showtopic=655

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 02:50 PM

Looking more at the picture you posted what's that on the right hand side of the picture in the mist ?

Might be my eyes but looks like a face ?

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Posted 16 March 2007 - 02:50 PM

Looking more at the picture you posted what's that on the right hand side of the picture in the mist ?

Might be my eyes but looks like a face ?


*refuses to fall for it*

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 07:46 PM

People have often looked, amazed, at me,and said "You know, that almost resembles a face !" :rolleyes:

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 08:28 PM

Just had to comment on that photo its reght good! i have an interest in ghosts especially ones local or basically anything what throws a spanner in works of normal reality ,some of the books i have the photos arent as good as that,but i have some pretty frightening family photos with weird faces all around me mainly cousins etc but not startin thinking about that at this time i wont be able to sleep later :lol:

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 09:10 PM

ha ha ha !!!

You're as bad as me !

I can scare me-sen to death sometimes over nowt !

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 04:40 PM

My favourite memory of Rotherham was getting on the 69 bus to bring me home :P

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Posted 24 March 2007 - 12:20 PM

I'm really sorry to hear that Rotherham has gone down so much. I started my working life there in 1959. It was a vibrant town - cinemas galore, nice shops, and when I was old enough - nice pubs. Saw a few stage shows at the Essoldo. Went up Masbro' to see the floodlights at Millmoor when they were first tried out - going to the old Statutes Fair where the police station now is - watching 'Musical Marie' at the old Cinema House when she was doing her marathon piano playing - going in Cantors in Effingham Street to hear all the latest records being played by the lady who eventually opened The Sound of Music in Howard Street. Having my lunch in the Whitehall Cafe and The Gate Cafe. I stood gawping at the burnt out Woolworths. Happy memories of my then favourite singer - Marion Ryan, when she opened JAX in College Street. I loved riding on the 'Trackie' Buses too - so smooth, much better than the Sheffield Tramcars. Sad memories of a work colleague losing his seven years old son. I also saw a lorry lose control as it approached the red traffic light at the bottom of Doncaster Gate. A lady and a small boy lost their lives because of this. It was a Friday morning. It preyed on me for ages. Eventually I walked out of the job as I had wanted to leave for some time, but my parents were against it. In those days you had to do as you were told. The wonderful feeling when I left the premises for the last time, knowing I would never return. I was 19 and had been getting home from that place at 8-8.30 some Saturday nights. I had to make up for lost time, and I did. I realise that it was the wrong way to leave, but that it was the best thing I ever did for myself. I never regretted it for one second. Time has told it was the right thing to do. Rotherham itself will always hold memories for me, and I sincerely hope things do pick up soon.

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 07:36 PM

Do these blast furnaces still exist at Parkgate ?

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 08:32 PM

Do these blast furnaces still exist at Parkgate ?

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No

There are no Steelworks left at Parkgate, the area is mainly Retail Parks,

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Templeborough is the Magna Centre.

However there is still a large Steelworks complex at Aldwarke/Thybergh

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Posted 05 February 2011 - 09:11 PM

Do these blast furnaces still exist at Parkgate ?

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If we are talking about blast furnaces which these are, which are used to extract iron from iron ore as opposed to steel works in general which usually work the steel into useful shapes and sizes, or, at there closest to the blast furnace, convert iron into steel by, for example, the Bessemer process then I am lead to believe that there are very few blast furnaces left in the country and none in Sheffield or Rotherham.

There used to be some at Scunthorpe but I think they have now gone.

That means the nearest ones would probably be at BSC Redcar, well over 100 miles away. But even these were threatened with closure fairly recently.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:46 AM

Talking about Rotherham ..............

My husband & myself kept the Belvedere on Moorgate Road in the '80's , the road behind the pub ran up to Boston Park past Moorgate Cemetary & I traced the history of the pub back to the 1800's when Bartlet Holbein was the first landlord & he put an advert in the Rotherham Advertiser welcoming people to the " Beerhouse & Bowling Green " on Moorgate Road.

In my research into the name " Belvedere " which means " a tower with views on all sides " I was told that it was named after Moorgate Grange , the house across the road which had / has a small tower & was the home of the owner of Guest & Chrimes . This house has now been split into two.

I had a lot of other info which got mislaid & since having a stroke I can't remember !! So anybody that can add to this I would be grateful to their imput.

I am going to see if I can attach a photo because the pub is now closed & maybe going to be pulled down ....watch this space !!


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Posted 13 February 2011 - 11:54 AM

Talking about Rotherham ..............

My husband & myself kept the Belvedere on Moorgate Road in the '80's , the road behind the pub ran up to Boston Park past Moorgate Cemetary & I traced the history of the pub back to the 1800's when Bartlet Holbein was the first landlord & he put an advert in the Rotherham Advertiser welcoming people to the " Beerhouse & Bowling Green " on Moorgate Road.

In my research into the name " Belvedere " which means " a tower with views on all sides " I was told that it was named after Moorgate Grange , the house across the road which had / has a small tower & was the home of the owner of Guest & Chrimes . This house has now been split into two.

I had a lot of other info which got mislaid & since having a stroke I can't remember !! So anybody that can add to this I would be grateful to their imput.

I am going to see if I can attach a photo because the pub is now closed & maybe going to be pulled down ....watch this space !!


Barbara M

The Belevere Moorgate Rotherham.jpg

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 05:27 PM

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Thank you for adding the information and photograph Barbara M,
I was out that way just before Christmas (RDGH - hospital appointment)
my intention was to walk back to Rotherham Town and pay a visit
to Boston Park for some photos,
however the weather turned nasty so I finished up catching a bus.

Joseph Edgar Percy Smith, victualler.
Belvedere. 60 Moorgate Road.
1925

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 06:29 PM

Boston Park is quite interesting as it has the doorway from the old college that was the original Thomas Rotherham college which used to be in the town center near to where Woolworths used to be & Moorgate cemetary has some famous Rotherham names in it .

You would have enjoyed your walk.

Barbara

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 09:06 PM

Talking about Rotherham ..............

My husband & myself kept the Belvedere on Moorgate Road in the '80's , the road behind the pub ran up to Boston Park past Moorgate Cemetary & I traced the history of the pub back to the 1800's when Bartlet Holbein was the first landlord & he put an advert in the Rotherham Advertiser welcoming people to the " Beerhouse & Bowling Green " on Moorgate Road.

In my research into the name " Belvedere " which means " a tower with views on all sides " I was told that it was named after Moorgate Grange , the house across the road which had / has a small tower & was the home of the owner of Guest & Chrimes . This house has now been split into two.

I had a lot of other info which got mislaid & since having a stroke I can't remember !! So anybody that can add to this I would be grateful to their imput.

I am going to see if I can attach a photo because the pub is now closed & maybe going to be pulled down ....watch this space !!


Barbara M

And a Sheffield connection.

'In 1842 Richard Chrimes, son of Edward Chrimes
appears to be running his own business in Sheffield
',
some history of Guest and Chrimes here ... www.rotherhamweb.co.uk

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 06:12 PM

And a Sheffield connection.

'In 1842 Richard Chrimes, son of Edward Chrimes
appears to be running his own business in Sheffield
',
some history of Guest and Chrimes here ... www.rotherhamweb.co.uk


It has taken me a few weeks to find those pics I have of the Belvedere sign & the pic of the Grange with the belvedere on top of the house on the right hand side. Sorry about the snow in the second picture it nearly obscures the turret !! ( belvedere )
A belvedere is a room or small tower with a view on all sides , according to my research.

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Posted 16 March 2011 - 09:27 PM

It has taken me a few weeks to find those pics I have of the Belvedere sign & the pic of the Grange with the belvedere on top of the house on the right hand side. Sorry about the snow in the second picture it nearly obscures the turret !! ( belvedere )
A belvedere is a room or small tower with a view on all sides , according to my research.

Barbara

Thank you for digging the old photos out Barbara.

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 12:25 AM

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Boston Park is quite interesting as it has the doorway from the old college that was the original Thomas Rotherham college which used to be in the town center near to where Woolworths used to be & Moorgate cemetary has some famous Rotherham names in it .

You would have enjoyed your walk.

Barbara


I thought you might like this photo of the doorway which I took some years ago in Boston Park.

Patrick

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 01:14 PM

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I thought you might like this photo of the doorway which I took some years ago in Boston Park.

Patrick


This is just as I remember it....thankyou for the picture Patrick.

By the way is your surname " Green " by any chance ?? If so I think I remember you !!

Cheers,

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 12:14 AM

This is just as I remember it....thankyou for the picture Patrick.

By the way is your surname " Green " by any chance ?? If so I think I remember you !!

Cheers,

Barbara M

Sorry Barbara, my surname isn't Green.

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Posted 02 May 2011 - 10:28 PM

This is just as I remember it....thankyou for the picture Patrick.

By the way is your surname " Green " by any chance ?? If so I think I remember you !!

Cheers,

Barbara M

Sadly, it looks as though time has been called for the last time at the Belvedere.

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Posted 04 May 2011 - 01:23 PM

Sadly, it looks as though time has been called for the last time at the Belvedere.

Patrick



I knew it had closed but doesn't it look shabby & uncared for in these pictures, what a great pity that Rotherham is loosing another piece of it's history as the Belvedere dated from the early 1800's.
It was a very imposing building & I always thought it looked more like a private house then a pub !!

Thanks for the pictures, Patrick.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 10:55 PM

If we are talking about blast furnaces which these are, which are used to extract iron from iron ore as opposed to steel works in general which usually work the steel into useful shapes and sizes, or, at there closest to the blast furnace, convert iron into steel by, for example, the Bessemer process then I am lead to believe that there are very few blast furnaces left in the country and none in Sheffield or Rotherham.

There used to be some at Scunthorpe but I think they have now gone.

That means the nearest ones would probably be at BSC Redcar, well over 100 miles away. But even these were threatened with closure fairly recently.


As a Tata Steel* employee, I can tell you that blast furnaces are operational in the UK at Port Talbot and Scunthorpe. The blast furnace at Redcar was mothballed and subsequently sold to Thai steel company SSI and will be relit this December. The only other steelmaking plant is at Aldwarke in Rotherham but this is an electric arc furnace operation (making steel from scrap rather than from iron ore, as in a blast furnace). There are still many rolling mills, tube and rail mills and coating/tinning lines dotted around England, Wales and Scotland, including Stocksbridge in Sheffield and Brinsworth Strip mill on the Sheff/Roth border.

* Tata Steel = BSC > 1988 privatised British Steel plc > 1999 merged with Dutch steel co. Hoogovens and named Corus > 2007 Corus bought by India's Tata Steel

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 03:55 PM

I,m a Rotherham lad lived at 129 Wortley Road (demolished in 83) lived in Kimberworth Park then moved to Chapeltown before emigrating to the USA in 83 my Brother and Sister still live in Rotherham.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:33 AM

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Heard from a friend today & she sent me the attached , old Bartlett Holbein ( first licensee ) will be turning in his grave !!!
A vets no less !!

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 09:31 PM

I used to work for Rotherham Council i the late 80's and still visit town when I get a chance, usually when visiting my father, its such a shame that the town centre seems to have become a pubs only district. I remember the town centre when great names as Woolworths, Marks and Spencer and C & A were still there, I loved the compactness of the centre. What was the name of the big department store just below the old Magistrates court?

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 02:59 PM

I used to work for Rotherham Council i the late 80's and still visit town when I get a chance, usually when visiting my father, its such a shame that the town centre seems to have become a pubs only district. I remember the town centre when great names as Woolworths, Marks and Spencer and C & A were still there, I loved the compactness of the centre. What was the name of the big department store just below the old Magistrates court?



Do you mean what is now the Town Hall ?? If so you must mean the one that used to be on on High Street called " Muntus "

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 07:03 PM

I used to work for Rotherham Council i the late 80's and still visit town when I get a chance, usually when visiting my father, its such a shame that the town centre seems to have become a pubs only district. I remember the town centre when great names as Woolworths, Marks and Spencer and C & A were still there, I loved the compactness of the centre. What was the name of the big department store just below the old Magistrates court?




Do you mean what is now the Town Hall ?? If so you must mean the one that used to be on on High Street called " Muntus "

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Is the building on here, Rotherham Now & Then

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 02:15 PM

Yes Steve , its under the " M's " . Muntus Department Store.

This is very interesting to someone who knew Rotherham in the 70's / 80's / 90's as my mum & Frank Ballard kept the Red Lion in Bridgegate before we moved in the Belvedere & they moved to the Dene Brook on Dalton Lane.. Thanks for this.

Barbara

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 02:57 PM

Yes Steve , its under the " M's " . Muntus Department Store.

This is very interesting to someone who knew Rotherham in the 70's / 80's / 90's as my mum & Frank Ballard kept the Red Lion in Bridgegate before we moved in the Belvedere & they moved to the Dene Brook on Dalton Lane.. Thanks for this.

Barbara

Thank you Barbara, wasn't the old Magistrates court that biggles111 mentions on Moorgate ?