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#1 Sheffield History

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 01:40 AM

I wonder what the story to that is..

It sticks in my mind mostly because as a kid I thought it was Doctor Who's tardis !!

But in later life it's still there (I think !) and would be good to know the story of it

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 01:48 AM

I wonder what the story to that is..

It sticks in my mind mostly because as a kid I thought it was Doctor Who's tardis !!


But in later life it's still there (I think !) and would be good to know the story of it


Hahaha!!! So did I!!!

(I still do)


It's still there (or was the last time I conciously looked) - I've always wanted to go inside it, see what it was like inside a Police Box, but it was always locked up.


Someone once told me (don't know how true it was) that it was placed there during the miners strike so Police could be permenantly stationed where the strike was?

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 01:50 AM

I've never once seen the door open or a policeman go in or out of it

Maybe it's a door to some secret underground city hall tunnels ?

I reckon that you open the door - go inside and as soon as the door closes the inside shell is really a lift and takes you down to the tunnels

he he !!

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Posted 12 February 2007 - 02:08 AM

If I went in and ended up coming out in a tunnel, I'd be vastly disappointed.


I'd like to have travelled across space and time to another planet, along with a lovely assistant who called me 'The Doctor', have a robotic dog (I'd call him K-9) and eventually defeat some wierd part-robot-part-alien-brain beings.


Hey, that sounds like a great idea for a TV show!!

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 10:13 PM

Next time you're down town - grab me a pic and post it !

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 10:14 PM

I went past it today...


...AND IT'S A GREEN BOX!!!


I'm sure it used to be a Blue box (and I seem to have memories of it being a little further down the road) - but the Green box looks quite old?


Anyway - there is a green police box by the side of the Town Hall now!

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 10:14 PM

Green ?

Crikey !

I think it was too - It must have been my poor memory that thought it was blue ?

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Posted 15 February 2007 - 10:30 PM

...Or too much watching Doctor Who!


Anyway - I'll get a picture the next time I am in town!!

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 12:25 PM

There also used to be one at the bottom of Walkeley Lane..........been in it a couple of times in the mid 60's...............they aren't really as big inside as the TARDIS though

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 12:30 PM

Whereabout on Walkley Lane ?

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 12:34 PM

Right next to where The Flower Bowl used to be before it moved across the Road. Walk down from the Freemasons and over the bridge....it was bang on your right where the road meets Holme Lane

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 12:42 PM

Found a pic of the town hall one !!

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The original was blue !!

Outside the Town Hall, stands one of the last of 120 old-fashioned Police Boxes.

Better known in recent times as the transport of the television fictional character, ' Doctor Who ', this piece of police history no longer has it's original blue livery and lacks its blue light that flashed when an urgent telephone call came through.

Introduced in Sheffield in 1928 by the then Chief Constable, Percy J Sillitoe, of gang-busting fame, they were eventually phased out in the 1960's. The boxes were used by patrolmen for meal breaks and writing reports.

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 04:35 PM

This box was the traditional home of the Town Hall 'Bobby'. During the early 60s this was John Mason who actually looked like an old fashioned policeman. John liked his food and was a great person to chat to.

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Posted 20 February 2007 - 04:51 PM

Nice one - I'll see if I can find a pic of the chap somewhere..

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 11:00 AM

My Dad goes in it.

It must be still in use as Dad has to read the electricity meeting in it once a month. I'll find out.

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 11:04 AM

WOW!!!

See if he can get a picture INSIDE it!!!

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 11:04 AM

My Dad goes in it.

It must be still in use as Dad has to read the electricity meeting in it once a month. I'll find out.



Really ??

Excellent !!

Can he get a picture of it with the door open or summat on his phone ?

Or from the inside looking out ?

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 11:05 AM

I'll see. I might be wrong, I know he used to, whether he still does or not is another matter, I'l ask him when he comes home.

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 11:07 AM

Nice one - many thanks

That would be quite cool if he could (or knows someone who could)

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 03:15 PM

He will see what he can do ;)

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 03:16 PM

Nice one Rachy

Tell him I'll buy him a pint for it

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 03:32 PM

Tell him yourself, I've emailed him the link so he can register himself :D

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 03:35 PM

Excellent

Hopefully he'll be able to provide us with loads of Sheffield information and memories (after all.. he IS 'reyt old')

:lol: :lol: :lol: :D :D :D :D

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 03:43 PM

Oi! there is only me that gets away with saying that.

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 03:49 PM

It's ok - I'll delete it before he logs on

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Posted 22 February 2007 - 03:58 PM

Can do, I told him anyway. :D

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:06 PM

Hes going to do them this week.

He sought permission to see if he can take one of the inside so long as nothing of importance was showing.

They said yus.

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Posted 26 February 2007 - 10:23 PM

Hes going to do them this week.

He sought permission to see if he can take one of the inside so long as nothing of importance was showing.

They said yus.


I was once shooting in a police control room (no names no pack drill) and great care was taken to ensure that nothing sensitive appeared on screen. Months after the programme had gone to the client I was reviewing it with students and I noticed something we'd all missed. In a big close up of someone dialing on a push button telephone I noticed one of the quick dial buttons simply said 'BATPHONE'. Watching the fingers distracted you enough to miss it even after repeated showings.

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Posted 27 February 2007 - 09:23 AM

Hes going to do them this week.

He sought permission to see if he can take one of the inside so long as nothing of importance was showing.

They said yus.



How fantastic - and much appreciated

Tell him we love him !!!

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Posted 05 March 2007 - 12:00 PM

I wonder what the story to that is..


Is there anybody out there who remembers P.C. Judd? It was his job to keep the traffic moving in what is now called Town Hall Square. It was his police box that now stands as a protected building at the top of Surrey Street. Before 1960 when the trams finished there was an island opposite the Town Hall where passengers could board their tram. It was also a very congested area even when there were far fewer trams than today. Just think - there was Surrey Street, Pinstone Street, Barker's Pool, Leopold Street and Fargate all meeting there with no one way traffic. It needed a bobby with character and presence to sort it all out. To add to all that there were trams coming and going to and from Pinstone Street and Fargate. P.C. Judd was the man and should things get overwhelming he could pop into his police box and ask for assistance. I suppose too, in slack times he could eat his sandwiches and drink from his flask. When I was a student teacher back in the late 1940s P.C. Judd's son was a student there. Possibly he still lives in Sheffield - if so and he reads this - let us know a bit about your old dad.

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Posted 05 March 2007 - 12:08 PM

I think I have a picture of him somewhere - I'll dig it out

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Posted 05 March 2007 - 12:14 PM

A very responsible and public position. Wonder if he ever made sergant? They were real policemen in those days, unhampered by political correctness or laws that seems to favour the wrongdoer.

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Posted 06 March 2007 - 02:37 AM

Is there anybody out there who remembers P.C. Judd? It was his job to keep the traffic moving in what is now called Town Hall Square. It was his police box that now stands as a protected building at the top of Surrey Street. Before 1960 when the trams finished there was an island opposite the Town Hall where passengers could board their tram. It was also a very congested area even when there were far fewer trams than today. Just think - there was Surrey Street, Pinstone Street, Barker's Pool, Leopold Street and Fargate all meeting there with no one way traffic. It needed a bobby with character and presence to sort it all out. To add to all that there were trams coming and going to and from Pinstone Street and Fargate. P.C. Judd was the man and should things get overwhelming he could pop into his police box and ask for assistance. I suppose too, in slack times he could eat his sandwiches and drink from his flask. When I was a student teacher back in the late 1940s P.C. Judd's son was a student there. Possibly he still lives in Sheffield - if so and he reads this - let us know a bit about your old dad.


In your book "The Sheffield Camera" you have a picture of a traffic policeman in front of the Cathedral. Would that be the same man?

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 09:59 AM

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Sorry for the quality but here'a policeman directing traffic in Castle Square (right where the hole in the road used to be) and as you can see it was not just road traffic but trams too !

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 04:13 PM

the photos are done i just keep forgetting to put them on the site for you.

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 04:31 PM

Great stuff !!

Looking forward to them

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 06:59 PM

I've been inside that box.

I was arrested after a school Speech Day at the City Hall and taken to that box in 1973 :angry:

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Posted 22 March 2007 - 09:44 PM

I know this is not strictly about the box itself but here's a shot I took from outside the box last year.....

http://img.photobuck...ry/P1028977.jpg

On the subject of Police boxes...Me and my son went to Crich a while back and he was drooling over the "Tardis" type box there. One of the staff came over and seeing he was interested he asked if my las wood like a look inside.

The look of dissapointment on his face, when he saw it was just a small white box and not a all like the one Dr Who drives was a picture.

The tram driver there giggled..."they all do that"


Also I was suprised to learn that it is made from concrete not wood as I thought. It (the one at Crich) came from the metropolitan police in London, who years ago had trouble with thier wooden boxes been set on fire so they came up with the concrete box.

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Posted 27 March 2007 - 03:28 PM

looking at the box from Fargate

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Looking at box from Surrey Street

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Inside the box

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Looking across to Yorkshire Bank

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Looking across to Fargate
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thanks to South Yorkshire Police for the permission to take the pics.

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Posted 27 March 2007 - 04:21 PM

ha ha ha ha !!!!!!

That...

is a BRILLIANT piece of work !!!

I bet NOBODY has seen those kind of pics from there before !

FANTASTIC !

Thanks Rachy - pass my thanks onto your dad - he's a hero and I owe him a beer for that one