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Has anyone any knowledge concerning the Black Man public house that stood on Scotland St, in my books with the relevant maps showing just where they stood, the pub just isn't shown On the maps or the list of pubs. It's mentioned in the A to Z pubs on this site plus a photo can be seen on Picture Sheffield. If this pub did stand on Scotland St what year did it close?

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In 1889 the Black Man was advertised “TO LET BLACK MAN BEER STORES Scotland St, valuation about £150 – Apply William Brownill, 82 Queen street”

Later that year it was up for sale at Isaac Ellis’ auction room and was noted as being a “freehold beerhouse, dwelling-house and saleshop” but was withdrawn.

In 1893 it was advertised again, the valuation now being £80, and into 1894, it was up for let with Turner Wilson, Commercial St, valued at £90. Later in 1894 a sale was attempted but the “ Black Man, with the pork butchers attached, site 279 square yards, was withdrawn at £1,350.”

It appears that following this failed sale, the Old Albion Brewery of Ecclesall Road acquired the place. In November 1895 they advertised it to be let “extensively improved”. They hived off the saleshop which they advertised separately as a lock-up.

In March the lock-up was advertised for let as a “Cook shop next door to the Black Man, 74 Scotland Street, one of the best thoroughfares in the city”

In December 1899 the publican Mr William Fisher, held a concert in aid of the Sheffield Telegraph Shilling Fund for War Sufferers, and contributed 50 shillings.

In April 1903 a minor fire there was attended by Chief Officer Frost’s West Bar tender. On arrival they found that a girl had set fire to curtains while lighting the gas, but the occupier had already extinguished it.

In February 1907 at the licensing sessions, the Old Albion Brewery were told that they could renew the licence at the Moulders Return, Bard Street only if they gave up the licence for the Black Man.

At the following year’s licensing court, the Black Man was refused a billiards licence.

On 7th August 1908 the Evening Telegraph advertised “William West, late of the Ball Inn, Lambert Street, has removed to the BLACK MAN SCOTLAND STREET and will be very pleased to see his old and new customers. Cigars of the finest brand”

In December 1911 the publican Thomas Sedgwick of the Black Man, was before the magistrates along with two other publicans. The Sheffield police authorities were making an effort to suppress Sunday music and singing in public houses.

The Black Man closed in 1931:

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I've updated the A-Z with this new information. Thank you Edmund.

As an aside, a shop on Devonshire Street; (just a door or two from Rare and Racy) had a pub sign for the Black Man, most be about 8 or 9 years ago.

There remains the possibility of more information then from those with access to Census data.

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Some more on the timeline of the Black Man (and 76 Scotland street pre beerhouse) including some census info:

1825 - 9 Elizabeth Wortley, grocer and corn dealer

1846, 1852 Duffy and Cartlege, confectioners

1871 to at least June 1877 Henry Hides, pawnbroker

1871 Census - George Day Eaton, pawnbrokers assistant

August 1879 - Thomas Askin and Sons, grocers and tallow chandlers. Fire broke out at nos 64 and 76 Scotland street. A quantity of tallow was being boiled in a large tank in the factory which adjoined the premises at the back. During the absence of a workman some fat boiled over and ran into a nearby fire, igniting the tank. The Fire Office was informed and put the fire out with the assistance of Police-Sergenat Merrin. The beer-house must have been a smelly endurance taste during tallow boiling.

1881 census John Frederick Askin, grocer, tallow chandler and beer seller

December 1886 John F Askin went bust (he was trading as Thomas Askin and Sons)

1891 census Paul Cotton, grocer

1901 census William Fisher, publican - note that number 74 (the lock-up shop) was again a pawnbrokers shop.

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The evidence seems to be stacking up that it was "Dufty and Cartledge"

- in 1852 Dufty (John) and Cartledge (Robert.), confectioners, 76 Scotland Street - both showing as British Wine Dealer (underneath the heading Confectioners & Bakers !) - nowt to do with anything but George Bassett is also a British Wine Dealer.

- in 1856 Dufty (John) & Cartledge (Robt.), bakers and confectioners, 39 West Street - Dufty also showing as British Wine Dealer (underneath the heading Confectioners & Bakers !)

- in 1857 listed as * Dufty and Cartledge, 39 West Street, confectioners - the * signifies they were also British Wine Dealers

- by 1862 they are listed as Dufty (John) and Cartledge (Robt.), confectioners, 39 West Street.

and here is Mary Dufty and Robert Cartledge in 1863, which is nice and nothing at all to do with the Black Man boozer.... have I caused enough chaos for now ?

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and we're back !!!

1849 Charles Cartledge, grocer and maltster, 80 Scotland Street.

AND Dufty (John) and Cartledge (Robert), confectioners, 76 Scotland Street - also shown as British Wine Dealers under the Confectioners heading.

1837 Charles Cartledge, grocer and tea dealer & c. also showing as grocer and maltster 71 Scotland Street

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In 1889 the Black Man was advertised “TO LET BLACK MAN BEER STORES Scotland St, valuation about £150 – Apply William Brownill, 82 Queen street”

Later that year it was up for sale at Isaac Ellis’ auction room and was noted as being a “freehold beerhouse, dwelling-house and saleshop” but was withdrawn.

In 1893 it was advertised again, the valuation now being £80, and into 1894, it was up for let with Turner Wilson, Commercial St, valued at £90. Later in 1894 a sale was attempted but the “ Black Man, with the pork butchers attached, site 279 square yards, was withdrawn at £1,350.”

It appears that following this failed sale, the Old Albion Brewery of Ecclesall Road acquired the place. In November 1895 they advertised it to be let “extensively improved”. They hived off the saleshop which they advertised separately as a lock-up.

In March the lock-up was advertised for let as a “Cook shop next door to the Black Man, 74 Scotland Street, one of the best thoroughfares in the city”

In December 1899 the publican Mr William Fisher, held a concert in aid of the Sheffield Telegraph Shilling Fund for War Sufferers, and contributed 50 shillings.

In April 1903 a minor fire there was attended by Chief Officer Frost’s West Bar tender. On arrival they found that a girl had set fire to curtains while lighting the gas, but the occupier had already extinguished it.

In February 1907 at the licensing sessions, the Old Albion Brewery were told that they could renew the licence at the Moulders Return, Bard Street only if they gave up the licence for the Black Man.

At the following year’s licensing court, the Black Man was refused a billiards licence.

On 7th August 1908 the Evening Telegraph advertised “William West, late of the Ball Inn, Lambert Street, has removed to the BLACK MAN SCOTLAND STREET and will be very pleased to see his old and new customers. Cigars of the finest brand”

In December 1911 the publican Thomas Sedgwick of the Black Man, was before the magistrates along with two other publicans. The Sheffield police authorities were making an effort to suppress Sunday music and singing in public houses.

The Black Man closed in 1931:

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This is just fantastic information, I'm doing a new monthly article on the lost pubs of sheffield and the next one will focus on Scotland St, I did mention the forum in my first one so will it be ok to use some of this info for my next article? Funnily enough the Black Man can't be seen on any of the maps in my pub books, have you any idea which pubs it stood between?

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Between the Crooked Billet and the Farmyard Vaults. Apparently.

Crooked Billet was number 62 (or possibly number 68), Farmyard Vault number 102. So somewhere between Furnane Hill and Snow Lane-ish.

No sign of it.pdf

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Between the Crooked Billet and the Farmyard Vaults. Apparently.

Crooked Billet was number 62 (or possibly number 68), Farmyard Vault number 102. So somewhere between Furnane Hill and Snow Lane-ish.

I have this book and one by Douglas Lamb with the same title, but another anomaly comes up, they both mention the OLD HUSSAR (your scanned map shows them both) and the HUSSAR both seemed to have opened an 1816 and closed in 1927, strange, could it be the same pub? The OLD HUSSAR could be what the regulars called the HUSSAR.
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