Stuart0742 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I don't know if this has been covered before The main 1911 census document states Occupation Road however the schedule states Occupation Lane, is there a reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History dude Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 The answer is that the start of the document was filled in by the Enumerator and is the correct way. The other parts of the Census are filled in by the householders the first time in census and in that case a daft one who doesn't know that he lives in a Lane not a road! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The main 1911 census document states - Head of household, Alfred Crookes. However the schedule states - Head of household, Walter Crookes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart0742 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 The answer is that the start of the document was filled in by the Enumerator and is the correct way. The other parts of the Census are filled in by the householders the first time in census and in that case a daft one who doesn't know that he lives in a Lane not a road! The main 1911 census document states - Head of household, Alfred Crookes. However the schedule states - Head of household, Walter Crookes. I did not notice that, The schedule is actually for the previous house, also called Crookes, but the same applies, Road and Lane, there seems to be a variety of interpretations of address on the Road/Lane, so its could be down to what HistoryDude says. Out of interest there is at least 3 lots of Crookes on the Road/Lane maybe there are more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 This from History in the Shirebrook Valley puts Occupation Road on the opposite (Woodhouse) side of the valley. Railways,Roads and Footpaths For centuries travel, both through and across the valley, was via a network of footpaths and cart tracks. The bridges across the Shire Brook were vital. Most of the old footpaths remain and are now protected as Public Rights of Way. Over the years, local nicknames have been used for paths, the ‘Icky Picky’ (Occupation Road), Lovers Lane, Cardiac Hill (Spa Lane), to name but a few. The building of the railway line between the collieries made a significant impact on the valley and its access, with miners commonly hitching a ride. Many remnants of the associated stone ----- ====================================Occupation Road is a raised, hedge lined track which now runs off Coisley Road. Its age and origins are uncertain. It has been described as a service road to the first sewage works in the valley, a road to Scowerdens Farm on the other side of the brook, a road to Carr and Rainbow Forges (for transportation of materials, iron and fuel) and as an old packhorse trail for transporting salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History dude Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 He was probably Walter Alfred Crookes or Alfred Walter Crookes. He is the one that filled in the census return as his signature matches the rest of the document. He would have perhaps told the Enumerator one name and then filled in the form afterwards. That's the trouble with census they might not use the given names and use short forms of names for relations and themselves. Especially the 1911 census as they got the head of household to fill it in. One of my relations lied about his age, the number of children he had and how long he was married. So you can't always trust what someone writes down in a Census. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitedite Returns Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 As a scythe grinder, your man was probably, but not certainly, employed at Thomas Staniforth and Co. Ltd, Severquick, scythe and sickle works on Main Street, Hackenthorpe, which still exists, but no longer as a manufactory. Though there were other such factories in the area, this would have been the largest and the nearest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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