Census Lookup Please?

[Bayleaf]

Can anyone help please with a census lookup for 1911 and 1921 for Hagg Lane in Sheffield. I'm trying to trace a house that was there around WW1 but may have been demolished later. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[HughW]

The 1921 census will not be released until 2021 or shortly before.

It seems from directories at Indexers that there were two Hagg Lanes in 1911 - the one in the Rivelin Valley, and one in Gleadless. Which one are you looking for?

The entries if it helps:

Badger, John (, Farmer).
Address: Hagg Lane Farm, Bell Hagg, in 1911.
Recorded in: Whites Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham - 1911.

Parker, Ernest (, Grocer(P. W. & Sons)).
Address: Channing House, Hagg Lane, Gleadless, in 1911.
Recorded in: Whites Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham - 1911.

Wagland, Frederick William (, saw piercer (Wagland & Son)).
Address: h. 1 Hagg Lane, Gleadless, in 1911.
Recorded in: Whites Directory of Sheffield & Rotherham - 1911.

[Bayleaf]

Thanks Hugh. We assumed it was Rivelin. Perhaps I can explain. The Hallamshires recently acquired 2 volumes of letters written by Captain VS Simpson of the Sheffield battalion, and he makes frequent mention of a property at Hagg Lane which he appears to be renovating in anticipation of his forthcoming marriage. Both his family and that of his fiance are from the Broomhall/Broomfield areas, so we assumed Rivelin was the likely area, but it's worth investigating Gleadless. Thank you for the lead!

[vox]

On a 1905 map, these are the only buildings that I can find on or near Hagg Lane

Vardle houses (although a 1902 OS Map of Rivelin Glen names them as Wardle Houses)

Now there is, in it's approximate location, a Windle House Farm
Samehill farm
Hagg lane Cottages
Hagg lane Farm
Hagg Farm

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Commercial Gazette 20th April 1882
Chappell Frederick, (farmer and Cowkeeper) Windle-houses, Bell Hagg, Sheffield

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All of which is nicely confusing

[vox]

Hagg Lane, Gleadless, was re-named Hurlfield Road.

[Edmund]

From Sheffield Evening Telegraph 12^th April 1918

Captain Vivian Simpson of the York and Lancaster Regiment, who was a Sheffield solicitor, went into action in one of the recent big battles, leading his men, and while crossing a road was shot down and died almost immediately. It is believed that he was “sniped” at close range by a German. Lieut. Gill, a brother officer, writes: “Shortly afterwards the Germans made their appearance, and were dealt with”. The late Captain Simpson was a member of the firm of Messrs. G. J. Simpson and Sons, Fargate, Sheffield. He had seen much service during the war, and made rapid progress in the army. Originally joining a local battalion of the York and Lancaster Regiment, as one of the first members of the rank and file, he was not long in earning a commission, and in May 1917, was promoted to a captaincy. At the same time he was mentioned in dispatches. In September of the same year he gained the Military Cross, and in the official record setting forth the act for which the decoration was awarded, occurred the words “His work has been consistently excellent”.

Our sports representative writes :- Sportsmen in many parts of the country will regret to hear of the death of Captain Vivian S. Simpson, M.C. York and Lanc. Regiment, who was one of the cleverest amateur footballers of his day.

He first played for the Sheffield club, and afterwards assisted the Wednesday club whenever he could. He had great command of the ball, and was very fast and tricky, and though his light weight was against him for an inside forward, he obtained recognition from the English Selection Committee, without, however, securing his cap. He played in the trial match at Stamford Bridge on January 28. 1907, helping the North to beat the South by four goals to one. That he would have gained honours is certain had he not been contemporaneous with such fine inside forwards as the three famous amateurs – Woodward, Harris and Day, and such professionals as Bloomer and Coleman.

Shortly afterwards an accident and the demands of his legal practice caused his retirement from football at a comparatively early age. He was also a good golfer.

[Bayleaf]

The last line may explain something in one of his letters. They are all to his brother who is running the family firm. In a letter during the time at Redmires he says he played in a football match there, but his leg gave way three times, and he wouldn't play again. He certainly seems to have been a keen golfer, a member of the Wortley Golf Club. Wherever he was while in the UK he seems to have sought out the local golf club!

Thanks for your help everyone.