Edmund Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 On Attercliffe Road - this one is a bit plain without the ornate lettering style - does that make it older or newer than the style in the pic above? At the bottom is a makers name ; W.T Allen & Co, London. From Wiki: The contract passed to W.T. Allen in 1886 with the production of the "odd" size C box (WB86), which should have been 10 inches wide and 13 inches deep, but was actually 13 inches wide and only 10 inches deep. Only 70 were made before this mistake was rectified, with the introduction in 1887 of the Queen Victoria Jubilee boxes. This series comprised three sizes with the largest now designated A, the medium size (formerly No.1) now B and the small one (formerly No.2) Type C From London Gazette: W.T.ALLEN AND COMPANY LIMITED. Specialist in Wrought Iron Design. [Went bust] 28 January 2003. Address of Registered Office: Sherlock House, 73 Baker Street, London W1U 6RD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukelele lady Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'm intrigued too , there doesn't seem anywhere to put your coins in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I'm intrigued too , there doesn't seem anywhere to put your coins in. Could the fronts have been removed and then blanked off? '> '> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I spotted one yesterday on attercliffe road outside the old bulldog public house Streetview Link About a year late Google Streetview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thats the same one as my close up at #26. Would these boxes have been outside Post Offices or main workplaces in the late c19? If so i guess the address on the left may have changed use over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thats the same one as my close up at #26. Would these boxes have been outside Post Offices or main workplaces in the late c19? If so i guess the address on the left may have changed use over the years It was the Bulldog pub as tdh-syorks said. The pub changed name a couple of times in more recent times but I can't remember to what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thats the same one as my close up at #26. Would these boxes have been outside Post Offices or main workplaces in the late c19? If so i guess the address on the left may have changed use over the years 1879 directory. When that section of Attercliffe Road was called Carlton Road, and Trent Street was Bridge Street. c.1890 map 1950's L B = Letter Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Great stuff Steve! I asked earlier if the 'plain' style VR box predated the more elaborate design which is more commonly found today. Edmund at post #26 explains that the Attercliffe Road box is from before the 'elaborate' design which celebrates the 1887 Jubilee. You have proved it was there in 1879 so when was it installed and is it the oldest surviving box in Sheffield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Great stuff Steve! I asked earlier if the 'plain' style VR box predated the more elaborate design which is more commonly found today. Edmund at post #26 explains that the Attercliffe Road box is from before the 'elaborate' design which celebrates the 1887 Jubilee. You have proved it was there in 1879 so when was it installed and is it the oldest surviving box in Sheffield? No idea Calvin, there are around eighteen wall letter boxes listed in the 1879 directory, suppose I will have to make a list now .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Great stuff Steve! I asked earlier if the 'plain' style VR box predated the more elaborate design which is more commonly found today. Edmund at post #26 explains that the Attercliffe Road box is from before the 'elaborate' design which celebrates the 1887 Jubilee. You have proved it was there in 1879 so when was it installed and is it the oldest surviving box in Sheffield? If you look at the two maps closely, it appears that the box changed position slightly, so perhaps the wall was demolished and the same box re-sited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 No idea Calvin, there are around eighteen wall letter boxes listed in the 1879 directory, suppose I will have to make a list now .......... Wall Letter Boxes (from White's directory) 1879. Bramall Lane/Randall Street. Broad Lane/Red Hill (130-142) Broomhall Road/Park Lane (12-14) Carlton Road, (nr. Washford Bridge) now Attercliffe Road. Carr Road (38 - 46) (Whitehouse lane), looks to have been replaced with an ER wall box. Chapeltown; Wall Letter Box at Mortomley Lane End. Cricket Inn Road (Snow Hill/Bernard Street/St. John's Road) Crookes Moor Road, 180-182 (Barber Road) Deepcar Money Order Office Eyre Street, 53-57 (Charles Street/Brown Lane) Fawcett Street, 86 (Finley Street) Gladstone Road (Ranmoor Crescent) Grimesthorpe Road, 189 (Lyons Road) Handsworth High Street, Attercliffe (Church Lane) now Attercliffe Road. Kelham Street Scotland Street, 135-137 (Edward Street) Sharrow Head (Sharrow Vale Road) Spring Vale Road, 218-220 (Bates Street) Union Road, (Lyndhurst Road) Upwell Street, 56-62 (between Brightside Ln & Chambers Ln) Shire Green? Tinsley, Carbrook Money Order Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Had a quick look round at the above locations on Google, All I can add is the Carr Road wall box was probably replaced with the later ER version. Google street view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks very much Steve - it looks we have a winner! Sheffield's oldest pillar box and at least 135 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks very much Steve - it looks we have a winner! Sheffield's oldest pillar box and at least 135 years old. Wall Letter Box! I will have a look in the street directory and see if Post Boxes (pillar boxes) are listed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 From the Sheffield Independent February 16, 1856 POST OFFICE ARRANGEMENTS - The Mayor has received a letter from the Postmaster General saying that he has given instructions for the erection of a pillar box , near Worcester street, Broomhall, and expressing the hope that this arrangement will afford the required accommodation for posting letters in that neighbourhood From the Sheffield Independent May 15, 1858 NEW PILLAR POST OFICE - Within the last few days the Post Office authorities have erected a pillar letter box at the corner of Pye bank and Rock street. The letters are removed twice daily, at one and nine p.m. This will be in the place of the branch post office on Pye bank, which is now closed. From the Sheffield Independent June 16, 1860 WANTON MISCHIEF - On Monday evening, some mischevious person put a light into the Broad street pillar letter box, but did not succeed in doing any harm beyond scorching a few letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 ^^^ Nice one Edmund ^^^ ----------------------------------------- The East Bank Road (VR) Pillar Letter Box is not listed in the 1879 street directory, but it appears on a c.1890 map, and is listed in the 1901 directory. 1879 c. 1890 1901 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Here's the Pye bank - Rock street pillar Box 1903 extract showing the box below: Google shows it's not there now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Here's the Pye bank - Rock street pillar Box 1903 extract showing the box below: And it was actually in the street, not on the pavement - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 "Google shows it's not there now" Or indeed anything else! A good 'then and now'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I've got a couple of pictures VR postboxes in Sheffield. Information of where they are is included. Church Street/Vicar Lane, & Pinfold Street. Neither of these two are listed in the old street directories, nor are they marked on OS maps upto 1954, so can only presume that they were transfered to these locations at a later dade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHB Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Im sure this is a Victorian Post Box at Ringinglow.Courtesy of Google Earth. Here is a photo taken by forum member 'jimbob 55' .. https://ssl.panorami.../photo/18126075 Ringinglowe Road, (VR) Wall Letter Box. c. 1905 map 1911 directory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 ...and the first time I have heard of "Trout's Noted Ales". They must have disappeared many years ago, so perhaps they were not very noted, or not for the right reasons anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vox Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 ...and the first time I have heard of "Trout's Noted Ales". It seems that neither has anyone else for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Try Strouts Ales. Strouts had the Cannon Brewery before Stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin72 Posted February 8, 2014 Share Posted February 8, 2014 Try Strouts Ales. Strouts had the Cannon Brewery before Stones. Brilliant! - I googled 'Trout's Noted Ales' as well! - But looking at the photo you are right, it is 'Strouts Noted Ales'! Pity - i fancy a pint of Old Trouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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